. The two discussed coming out, addiction, and the concept of happiness.

Demi Lovato’s last 4D with Demi Lovato The podcast episode features bestselling author Glennon Doyle. The two discussed coming out, addiction, and the concept of happiness.

The singer shared an intimate internal monologue that they once told each other, that they would never be truly happy. The struggles with drug addiction sparked this false self-narrative and opened up a raw conversation about the matter.

Perception of happiness

“I said listen, being happy just isn’t in the cards for me,” the Dancing with the devil the artist admitted, “I’m always going to have some form of addiction, some form of mental illness. Depression, anxiety, whatever it is.”

Today, the performer who recently turned out to be non-binary came to the peaceful conclusion that the ability to feel complex emotions has enabled them to experience contained happiness.

“It’s cool because it makes me feel happy sometimes. But also, I can feel fear. I can feel sadness. I can feel anger when I’m upset.”

It’s a complicated concept, one that deep and sometimes dark emotions don’t belittle happiness. They can coexist in the entirety of human experience. The growing number of years that Lovato had given way to revelations like this.

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They went on to say that once they allowed themselves to feel, it was both liberating and terrifying. Doyle poignantly told Lovato how excited she was for them, that they could feel everything because they were living.

No pressure to identify

Both mental health advocates also covered up accepting to drop the wait for identification somehow. Lovato said they kissed their gender fluidity right now, but their identities could be completely different in 10 years.

Doyle agreed and mentioned his own frustration with herself when she found out about her gender identity. She said she was going to sit in the kitchen with his wife Abby Wambach and take Buzzfeed quiz to find out how she identifies.

The final thought? It’s okay to release the pressure to advertise a strong identity. While some people are comfortable calling themselves lesbian or bisexual, she no longer feels the need to identify this part of herself.

Lovato added, “It’s not about where you land. It’s where you learn to fly.”

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